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Post by rain on Mar 15, 2011 9:27:23 GMT -5
slow parts from omnimon born you could find where emperor turns back to normal kid, anb probably every time he regrets his mistakes in past. I have posted links to those videos (i think) you gotta just go trough this topic and look at links/youtube vids I posted. It may save some of your's time.
You could also recreate parts you cant cover.
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Post by greythunder on Mar 15, 2011 9:53:23 GMT -5
The scene where the emperor turns back I can tell you right now was different and way too short. I know that they play longer versions later, though. I'll need to check. I'll definitely look into the scenes from season 2 that have that song.
Also, this will make the overall quality even worse, though if worse comes to worse, I can just try to get one loop of that song and make it repeat a few times.
EDIT: Here is where I've tried so far: Ken's turning good in Episode 21. (This was too short to even make one complete loop.)
Episode 50 when Yukio dies. (This one ended differently, thus making it wrong.
And the videos at the beginning of this thread don't work. I'll keep looking one way or another, though can I have some suggestions on where this song is played in season 2?
EDIT 2: This will take longer than I thought. It appears that most of the English Dub Season 2 episodes after about episode 30 are not on youtube. There are also some episodes randomly here and there that are not on youtube in English. Chances of finding the song in season 2 are looking slim, especially because they don't play it much.
I might have some luck if I can find an episode 23 dub, but I'm not finding one. That's the one where Ken is remembering his past. That being the most depressing and emotionally scarring thing ever put in a TV-Y7 show, I'm hoping it has the song at least once in it.
Edit 3: DOH'! I found Episode 23 elsewhere, and it has the version of the song that ends differently at the end of the episode. In other words, it won't work.
I sadly do not think that they ever play the song again the way it was in the movie. I think that they edit it to work as a song in of itself, and not to transfer to the faster part that already exists, so I may not have anything to work with here.
Well, this sucks. I'll continue looking for a bit longer, but I don't have much hope that this is gonna work out like this.
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Post by rain on Mar 22, 2011 13:47:18 GMT -5
Hmm. I can find plenty of episodes > 30. for example I found ep 35 www.youtube.com/results?search_query=digimon+adventure+2+episode+35&aq=fif google around you might also find torrent downloads. .... I didnt find anything from forum rules, but I think moderators/administrators wouldn't allow me post links to torrents, so I cant do that search for you, but if you tell me specific episode, I can help finding it from youtube.
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Post by greythunder on Mar 22, 2011 18:06:05 GMT -5
Well, I sorta already have all the torrents from every episode of digimon from Piratesbay. It's just not on any of the computers/laptops in my house that I usually use. On top of that, the sound quality is sometimes really bad. And, I found a site separate from youtube with every episode on it. I looked through some stuff and I am not finding the version of the song we want. The only one I'm hearing ends differently to make it a song in of itself instead of the first half of a whole. I don't think they ever play the version of Omnimon Born we heard in the movie again. Look up Digimon Season 2 Episode 23 and watch the very end of the episode. This is the version I'm talking about.
And, about the youtube thing, they do have some over episode 30 from season 2 dub, but not absolutely every one. It appears to be missing more after episode 30 than before. Also, I am not willing to watch through all 50 episodes of season 2 in full again; I only looked through the ones which I remembered to have sad or dramatic moments, which is where they would play the song. It's not much. I only remembered hearing the song four, maybe five times in the series, and from the looks of it, they never play it the way it was in the movie.
Thanks for the help, though. You could help me search for the song the same way I am. Our goal here is to find the version of the song that connects to the second half as heard in the movie, and doesn't resolve itself. If we do, especially if we find it on youtube, I may be able to convert the files to something that can go on Pro Tools and see what I can do to edit anything not-music out. It won't be perfect, but the way I see it, if we can get it good enough to listen to and put it on youtube, and it gets several thousands of views after time, that will dramatically help us get the companies and people who own the song to release an official clean version of the song.
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Post by sulix on Mar 23, 2011 0:19:23 GMT -5
The thing you're looking for doesn't exist, I'm afraid.
The version of the music in the film is edited down from the more complete version, as far as I can tell. It also has had a synth overlay added by Shuki Levy. The overlays used in the film typically did not make their way into the series (there are, for example, several instances of "Heroic Theme" in its original guise found throughout the series), so you're unlikely to find that exact piece used again.
The "Omnimon Born" name has typically referred to the second half of the track, which was composed by Udi Harpaz, and edited and extended by Shuki Levy. The first half of the track, which ggctuk titled "Feel Their Strength" in 2009, was composed by Amotz Plessner, who has not responded to any of our emails. He used to have a video clip of the theme on his website (with sfx, sadly), but it was removed in the redesign (The filename was "Heroic.mov", it corresponds to ggctuk's "Returning to New York").
Hope this helps,
-- Sulix
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Post by rain on Mar 23, 2011 2:40:22 GMT -5
that music was also somewhere after 40th episode, where arukenimon and mummymon are in realworld, and daivis goes to help gen.. sec... see if i can find. Digimon Adventure 02 episode 37 see the end where black wargreymon gets defeated, and and then there's talk with azulongmon.Then watch Digimon Adventure 02 episode 47 where cody's grandfather talks with Oikawa. Then look at www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXSVRr2kx2Y 2:31 (digimon season 2 episode 39 part 1 ) Then last place where music gets played is where they defeat myotismon ... The kids talk about theyre dreams..... Also, are you able to cover music starts played here www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXSVRr2kx2Y at 2:00? it's played a lot in adventures 01 and 02. I think it's also played in adventure 01 where tai defeats etemon,and goes to town, look at part where digimons appear to town. And well have you thought about covering this www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NmecOprvA&feature=related at 0:58? (maybe you are able to get rid of blackwargreymon words and steps. I think it's also played in adventure 01 where catomon finds kari. It also looks like those tracks are english version specific. At least in Deutsch version they had music from japanese version and some of they're own. I thought about creating excel table where would be list of episodes and music they contain. this woul simplify putting tracks together because you could easyly see what episodes contain same tracks, and then pick music out of episodes, and then cut out voices and other stuff you dont need and then copy missing parts from other sound files. Edit: I have been looking for plenty of tracks www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh1fG64I2_YTracks I am looking for starts at0:08 and 2:33 and 4:02 and 6:06 and 6:52 and 9:14. www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6ID_ArTBQ4Tracks I am looking for starts at 4:48 and 5:16 and 7:00. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTr703AUbg4Track I am looking for starts at 2:28. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho38LNUOXWQTrack I am looking for starts at 7:44 www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTuOzfjxN3ETrack I am looking for starts at 2:12 www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgeTWaO7ms&feature=relatedTrack I am looking for starts at 0:10 and 0:39 And the biggest kick? While Saban did not want to release this stuff, Bug Music (http://www.bugmusic.com/) bought the rights to the entire Saban Music Group catalogue a month ago! Bug seems quite willing to license their stuff out, so I'm going to fire off a letter over the next week to them to see what their plans are regarding the English Digimon score, and maybe finally we will have the English music! Have you tried to tell them that you are not going to release it publicly which means they wont get into trouble if they leak those tracks to you.?
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Post by greythunder on Mar 23, 2011 10:10:10 GMT -5
Okay, sweet, this is good info. I'll check those scenes out that you told me.
As for the other songs, some of them are more likely than others. I still don't have that keyboard (I'm not the only one paying for it, so I don't fully get to chose when to buy it), but I'm sure that I could eventually be able to cover all those songs. I love covering songs, so it would actually be quite fun to do that. As for stripping not-music material out, that's harder.
The one with Wargreymon walking away from the digidestened and the huge dragon thing, that is the likeliest one to get good enough to listen to since there is lots of space with no sound at all. I probably won't be able to do much to the footsteps, but we'll see. That video will be a great one to test Pro Tools out with. I've never actually transferred a file to Pro Tools before, but I've seen videos of people that put songs and whatnot that weren't theirs on there, so there must be a kind of file that Pro Tools will accept. I'm hoping it can take MP3's, since turning a youtube video into an MP3 is as easy as cake.
I didn't have time right now to look at all the tracks from every video you showed me, though; I'll look into that more later today when I have more time.
Also, if you guys want an idea on exactly what I'd be able to do with Pro Tools, I'm trying to find a video that would explain it. This could help us a bit if we all understand the process. I'll update all this later today with assessments of all the tracks you showed me, a video explaining what I would do with Pro Tools and I'll look through more episodes for Feel Their Strength.
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Post by rain on Mar 23, 2011 10:35:55 GMT -5
for blackwargreymon steps you could just find that track from other episodes and see if you happen to find episode that has same misic but doesnt have any toer sounds where you had wargreymon steps at first place. Then you might be able cut music from other episodes. Since it's played alot in adventures 01 and 02, you have good chance to put together whole track.
With keyboard you can fill few seconds you cant find from episodes, but you cant create exact track. Even getting it 90% similar is hard thing to do. Don't forget that they had real orchestra + keyboard. You have only keyboard.
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Post by greythunder on Mar 24, 2011 10:18:40 GMT -5
The thing with cutting is a possibility, but sadly not a big one. I've been experimenting with how well you can cut with a song I wrote in Pro Tools, and you can make it seem like you didn't cut it. It takes about twenty minutes to cut something that well if it is done decently fast, but it can be done, so finding different parts of the track from different episodes may actually be a plausible idea, assuming I can turn a youtube video into a file that Pro Tools will accept. However, the one issue I see with cutting is that when I put something on Pro tools, it will not appear as several different tracks; it will all be one audio track with everything combined into it. So it will pick up the sound of every sound effect, voice, note and everything, meaning there may be no way to define where exactly to cut the song, possibly making it virtually impossible to do unless I just get that lucky. I'd need to look at it first, but this is what I predict could happen. Okay, that's it, I really gotta find a video explaining what I'd be doing. I don't know if I could explain much farther without getting into some complex stuff. Here one is: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoTT1uuFwSgThis is pretty much what I'd be experimenting around with here, so you can probably tell that what I'll be able to do is limited. As for covering segments with a keyboard, I'd say even getting 5% similar would be a very hard thing to do. As you pointed out, they had a whole orchestra plus keyboard, while I just have keyboard. Ontop of that, I can almost assure you that the keyboard used there is nicer than the one I'm getting; mine is $300, I can only assume that theirs is twice that much or more. The Digimon Dub was a very high budget production. I could also almost assure you that the effect on my keyboard that would get the needed sound would sound different than what their keyboard sounded like. So in the end, I would be lucky to get it to being even 5% similar. I hardly consider covering needed segments to even be an option. Though, did I read that Bug Music bought the entire Saban Music Catalogue just one month ago? Hm... that makes me think... since Digimon is probably the most popular show Saban ever put out right next to Dragonball Z and Power Rangers, I wonder if Bug wants to release that music by themselves. You can bet that they spend a heck of a lot of money buying that music from Saban, and I highly doubt that they just wanted to waste money.
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Post by lch503 on Mar 24, 2011 16:41:14 GMT -5
Hi! can I have a link to the digimon orchestral music please!
Thanks!
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Post by rain on Mar 24, 2011 16:50:27 GMT -5
true, maybe they bought it cuz they wanted to make sure that it wont get released for cutting, this should be way easier. audacity.sourceforge.net/they had orchestra, you have only keyboard, but actually result is same - file. Which is just data. which means that theoretically its possible to build identical mp3 using software (yes you can build file byte by byte), but practically it would be hard and would take hundreds of years. There's also virtual keyboard simulators. I belive that you can find simulators for whole orchestra. Just takes some googleing. but still ... even if you manage to write exactly same notes, result would less or more different from real (physical) instruments. But as far as i know bug music haven't answered to any letters/mails so I guess some body has to phone them... only problem is that you gotta pay for phone calls specially if they are in other country.
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Post by lch503 on Mar 24, 2011 17:39:48 GMT -5
Hi! Sorry for being so brief earlier. The song I am looking for is "Omnimon born" I think, it is the song from the youtube link below: www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9GJOWkLrg0I have been waiting years to have a version of this song, do you guys still have this? Good job on getting hold of them in the first place! Thanks lch503
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 17:57:35 GMT -5
true, maybe they bought it cuz they wanted to make sure that it wont get released for cutting, this should be way easier. audacity.sourceforge.net/they had orchestra, you have only keyboard, but actually result is same - file. Which is just data. which means that theoretically its possible to build identical mp3 using software (yes you can build file byte by byte), but practically it would be hard and would take hundreds of years. There's also virtual keyboard simulators. I belive that you can find simulators for whole orchestra. Just takes some googleing. but still ... even if you manage to write exactly same notes, result would less or more different from real (physical) instruments. But as far as i know bug music haven't answered to any letters/mails so I guess some body has to phone them... only problem is that you gotta pay for phone calls specially if they are in other country. You know what might get them to listen? A leak. And if it doesn't, then too bad. Me, I won't leak this myself since that would be going against my word though. Orchestral suites are useful for making covers if not mimicking the real thing, and they'd do as a placeholder until we found the real thing.
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Post by greythunder on Mar 24, 2011 21:11:19 GMT -5
Hm... I always figured that Pro Tools would be better than Audacity, knowing how it's essentially a $200 version of it from what I know. I looked up some audacity instructional videos for cutting stuff like that, and it seems like I do pretty much the same thing. I don't think Audacity will help me.
If I had pro-tools 9, which would cost me another $250 that I am not willing to spend, I could make a whole orchestra by myself, since Pro Tools 9 has very high quality artificial instruments. But I doubt I'd find any good free artificial instruments.
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Post by rain on Mar 25, 2011 7:02:18 GMT -5
Hi! Sorry for being so brief earlier. The song I am looking for is "Omnimon born" I think, it is the song from the youtube link below: www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9GJOWkLrg0I have been waiting years to have a version of this song, do you guys still have this? Good job on getting hold of them in the first place! Thanks lch503 at first they play there www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxQVyqOKn0gafter that they have heroic theme. you can get from www.megaupload.com/?d=A2FKRCEMHm... I always figured that Pro Tools would be better than Audacity, knowing how it's essentially a $200 version of it from what I know. I looked up some audacity instructional videos for cutting stuff like that, and it seems like I do pretty much the same thing. I don't think Audacity will help me. If I had pro-tools 9, which would cost me another $250 that I am not willing to spend, I could make a whole orchestra by myself, since Pro Tools 9 has very high quality artificial instruments. But I doubt I'd find any good free artificial instruments. There's always possible to use torrent download or if you want to stay legal, you can also use 30 day trial. Does anyone know any track from english digimon or from orchestral digimon tracks that is somewhere on internet that I dont have in my list.
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