where i can get some background music?

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In slightly related news, Saban's reacquired the Digimon franchise and will be dubbing Xros Wars. Does this mean they will default to the original music or write some new material? It'd certainly be nice if they retained a familiarity, especially given the style is closer to Adventure/Adventure 02 than Data Squad was.

[sulix]

New music, I'm afraid. Saban sold off the rights to the old music: It's still owned by BMG Chrysalis, and the masters are still with Disney, AFAIK.

"Saban's longtime composer Noam Kaniel will be composing music for the series."

We do still have some chance that the music will be of similar style to Saban's previous outings, though.

-- sulix

Edit: BMG Chrysalis now have all of their digimon cues in their database. They don't have copies of the tracks, but they do have the ASCAP/BMI info, as well as the 'cd' of Shuki Levy's website music. Interestingly, there they reference both 'Score Selection 1' and 'Score Selection 2'. It seems that Levy's webmaster may have been holding back.

Even more interestingly, it seems that there have been some more interesting developments. Disney lost the rights to the show (and possibly the music) two or three years ago, after which they were reverted to Toei. However, Saban has recently re-licenced the old series of Digimon as well. They still don't own all of the music, but they might have the master-use rights.

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I figured there was a Score Selection 1. I wonder what it contained. I tried googling Digimon Score Selection 1 a while ago but I got nothing.

I wonder if that means we might be able to ask Saban themselves for help? Given they will be wanting to reinstate the Digimon brande woefully neglected by Disney (and it was, IMO, woefully neglected), a score release might not be so unlikely, especially if we convince them to go the Intrada route.

[rain]

Very interesting. Where did you get that text in italic sulix?

[Renamon]

Hello! After so long, I'm back! Say, what's the current topic of things at this point in this thread? Did the Original poster get the wanted music and something else is wanted or talked about now? Please catch me up here.

[rain]

By now we've got some tracks but there are still music to get (I cant rest until I've got everything from adventure 01 and 02). We are mailing composers to ask them information about they're tracks, discuss what saban, intrada, FSM, disney do with tracks and rights. ggctuk managed to make some nice covers. If you read 2 or 3 last pages of this topic you should be able to catch up.

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Wish I could say I have good news, but I don't.

I think at this point, it's time to call it a day for me on trying, because I've gotten nowhere, Amotz Plessner is not responding any more. Given that fact, I feel safe telling you that although I felt I should have kept this on the down-low because there was a chance it would happen, given that it's not going to now, Amotz Plessner offered to send me a few tracks. Never got them, so I don't feel obliged to keep that secret.

Blood from a stone, I tell you. But we got a fair amount, which is pretty good. Who knows what the future may hold, though? The likelihood of Intrada doing a release is very slim with the news that Disney lost the rights some time ago, but somebody out there must have either recording sessions or the composer promos (and yes, it would make sense for there to be composer promos of these scores). I'll certainly be on the look out for those.

At this juncture, I feel I have done all I can.

[sulix]

Thanks for everything you have done, ggctuk: without your efforts we wouldn't have anything!

I've been pretty busy, and haven't made much more progress recently, but I'll be giving everything another go (and finishing off some related things) when I get a chance.

I've found a quite a bit in the past couple of months, and while on the whole it's not looking good, not all hope is lost. The quest of getting all of the S1/S2 music is one that is likely never going to happen: most of the music was tracked from other Saban shows. Some of this music has crept out through composer websites and promos, (notably 'Optimistic'), but the vast majority of it will likely remain locked up for good. It's one thing to release the music for one show (like Digimon: The Movie) and quite another to release all of the music ever owned by Saban.

On the other hand, it's pretty likely Disney still hold the master-use rights for all of the music --- I suspect when their rights to the franchise lapsed, it did not include the music: that's something they own rather than something they licensed. Publishing rights are split between BMG (S1+S2+Movie) and Disney (End of S3+S4+Data Squad). The problem here is that --- no longer holding the rights to Digimon --- they're unlikely to want to promote it by releasing the music.

I suspect the sessions aren't going to leak in a hurry: the masters are at Disney and most of the people who worked on the show no-longer have copies (save for the composers and a few others). Then again, the spate of Williams sessions that appeared recently always makes one hopeful! Promos on the other hand are certainly around: the problem being we largely have them. Although there is a promo of S3 music I'm aware of but don't have, and the composers certainly have the whole scores but are understandably skittish about giving them out.

Thanks again, and do keep an ear out!

-- Sulix

BTW: Has anyone got the New Video DVD releases of Digimon? I've got the Madman ones, but apparently the New Video ones come from much better quality masters. Madman assure me that their Adventure 02 DVDs (which are coming out next month) come from better masters. Hopefully I'll get some time to sit down and puzzle together more of the cues that are edited or only appear in the series!

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Well, I'm still working on covers every once in a while. I might just redo my Guardians Of The Internet theme from scratch though, I'm still not happy with it.

I actually went back to both covers for "The Digi-Egg Hatches" and "Aftermath" and changed them both: The Digi-Egg Hatches now has the winds in the ending (absent in the last cover). Still need to reverb some of the winds though. Aftermath involved changing the tempo of the intro mainly, and closing up a gap towards the end. It definitely sounds better.

[rain]

Good job! Very close to original.

[brking]

Don't give up yet! I've been following this board for over 2 years and you people have done too much to quit now! I have an idea, though I'm unsure if it will work. The original Digimon movie was dubbed in multiple languages. However, they each used the same music, sound effects, etc. If we could get out hands on just the movie without the spoken parts, we could obtain the music through that method.

(On another note: Plessner, Levy, and Harpaz will still reply to me, and I emailed a few others who worked on the project. I found that most of them do not have any of the music whatsoever, but Disney does have some.)

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I've gotten nothing more out of either Harpaz nor Plessner, not even when I sent Plessner one of my covers to get his opinion on it. He offered me some music but never sent it, or at least I never received it, and I haven't heard back since. We've all tried at least asking questions, and we've gotten no joy out of any of them. I had better luck with Amotz up until he offered to send me tracks.

It's possible that, given the fact the movie would have to have been converted for DVD, that the film music stems exist, but try getting them, and even if you did, those stems would simply contain the music as it appears in the film, not how it was scored. Without further detail on who was involved in the process of the film (assistants to the composers, for instance) I can safely say there's not much more we can do. Disney are not likely, as sulix said, to want to associate themselves with the music of a show they no longer own the rights to. I'd love to see something like what 4Kids composer Joel Douek did: with 4Kids' blessing, he shared a lot of the music to the American version of Yu-Gi-Oh! through his YouTube page (his YT username is otmny, and although he only has 16 videos his YT page, he once uploaded nearly 100 cues on his website, which unfortunately no longer exists it seems) and if we could get some sort of arrangement like that up, whereby the composers themselves are given the freedom to upload the music, then I don't see the problem. The tricky part is getting the permission, because as sulix said, the rights are scattered all over the place. Maybe, however, there is a way: we need a way to field this idea.

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Amotz responded to my posting those two covers "The Digi-Egg Hatches" and "Aftermath" for him to see. He said this:

Hi Gareth,

Yes, you did a good job. These are all Udi cues.

Amotz

So I think it goes like this as far as who scored what:

Udi-Part 1
Amotz-Part 2
Udi and Amotz appear to have shared Part 3.

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Updated three old covers (the first two have new material courtesy of sulix providing decent rips to base them off). Now I want to go and work on an all-new cover from the film. Haven't yet decided which one I want to try out yet. Might just try for a few of the shorter cues (like the one where Sora checks her e-mails after Tai calls her).



And further to what I said a couple of days ago, it's quite muddy as to who did what with Act 3 of the film precisely. We know certain cues Amotz Plessner did, and I also suspect that any cue that is on Udi Harpaz's website - but is not actually the film version but a re-recording - are actually Plessner's cues (Kind of supported by the fact that Revealing Digimon is most likely a Plessner cue and that the film version is not what Udi Harpaz has on his site).

[rain]

Good to head that your still getting some replies. Also that cover looks nice. I see you have improved skullgreymon part. If some notes weren't played too fast I would have thought it's original. Its great that people like brking come and give us new strength and hope.

Sadly I am not very helpful as I dot have any good musical knowledges nor I manage to get reply from composers. I am studying computer science in anyone wants to know.