Garurumon6
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Post by Garurumon6 on Oct 28, 2007 6:27:21 GMT -5
This thread really should have more activity.
Okay people, abortion. I bring up this topic because while I drove into the parking lot to a concert hall, I see a car PLASTERED with anti-abortion bumper stickers. The funniest one being, "Real femanists don't kill babies." and what, the fake ones go around in with a battle axe and just start swinging?
Yes, I know that's not what it meant, but as you can see, I'm pro-choice.
It's not that I don't want children in the world, but there are so many reasons NOT to have the child. (Parents not ready or stable enough, victim of rape, teen pregnancy, detramental to the woman's health.)
What do you guys think? I'm open to intelligent argument.
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Garurumon6
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Destroying the status quo. Because the status is NOT quo...
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Post by Garurumon6 on Nov 2, 2007 18:44:00 GMT -5
Nobody will touch this with a ten foot pole huh? Come ON! This is what the debate board was made for.
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Post by Elec on Nov 2, 2007 19:48:17 GMT -5
I'm not surprised since activity had been minimal lately. As for abortion I feel it is always the woman's choice. It is after all her body and if she chooses to not have a child she should be able to not have it. Since I'm male I really don't have the perspective of a woman, but if I did I would want all the freedom I could. I am definitely pro-choice.
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zombiekiller2045
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Post by zombiekiller2045 on Nov 4, 2007 18:01:01 GMT -5
I personally think it's wrong(though kids are a pain in the @$$) I mean if they didn't want kids there are many ways to avoid it besides abortion,what's more wrong is that if someone hits a car and kills a mother then they're charged with two murders,yet a mother killing her baby isn't charged as murder until it's born.but after it's born killing it is wrong,so basicially before it's born,even though it's still alive you can kill it without any penality,after it's born kill it and you go to jail.
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Post by neo on Nov 7, 2007 18:34:29 GMT -5
I pretty much over look this section of the forum, because I usually don't feel like debating, but since I'll do anything right now to avoid my homework, I'll put in my input. I mean if they didn't want kids there are many ways to avoid it besides abortion, Okay, I understand that, but that's assuming the mother willingly got into the mess. What if the woman was raped? There's no real way to avoid that, right? So you're saying if someone were to kill a mother and an already born child, it's two accounts of murder. Well, yeah it is. That person is killing two well to do people. Of course it's murder. That's a fact. It would be killing two separate people. I wouldn't consider the woman a mother until the baby is born, and I believe that's how the law views it as well. She wouldn't be killing anything until it was actually born. Why should she be charged with killing if she didn't kill a born child? In case anyone didn't pick up on it, I'm pro-choice. Not necessarily pro-abortion, I just believe that every woman should have the right to abort her own child or not. No one other than the woman knows her situation, and if she truly believes it best, she should have the right to abort her child. |
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Post by MetalGreymon Tamer on Feb 4, 2009 20:29:50 GMT -5
me kilz all people who have abortionz and Drz who do them
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Post by Deji on Mar 16, 2009 9:07:58 GMT -5
I think abortions are neccessary. There are circumstances where giving birth could kill both child and mother, for example, and rape. Plus you cant do it after a certain amount of time anyway. And if you eat eggs, you kil embreyos too, so lets ban eggs? And you know what, technically, if you think an abortion is killing then every time a woman has her period she has to get pregnant, because otherwise a 'potential human life' is killed.
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Post by Deji on May 31, 2009 15:05:07 GMT -5
Why isn't it against the law to kill human beings that pick a fight with our country?
Abortion is practical- Morals, sorry to break it to you, count for very little in the reality of the world. We as country have been trying to uphold some higher sense of justice but so far its only getting us into trouble. While its sad that some unborn child is killed, it would be sadder to see what could happen.
Think about the cases where its needed. Think about the majority (not the minority of heros and overcomers) that go up with teen mothers in slums that grow up to commit crime and murder. Think about the terminally ill child who never had nor never will have a chance at life, forced endure five or six years of pain and suffering before he dies. Think of the woman who was cruelly rapped, left forever with a reminder of the awful event that she could never love and will more than likely abandon or abuse. Most tales do not have happy endings, much as we wish they would. In most cases its simply better off.
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Post by Deji on Jun 5, 2009 17:40:06 GMT -5
Think about things like this though before you pull the God card- I'm not trying to be mean, but your 'merciful god' also thinks that homosexuals should die and that everyone who doesnt do things his way is wrong. Sometimes there are things that just get in the way. Its great that you want to same them, but (and i dont mean to talk down to your or anything like like that; thats not my intention here) its a childish way of thinking. Take for example, when i was little, i wanted to be a vet. I thought i could save all the animals in the world. As i grew up i learned it simply wasn't possible. Dont get me wrong, lilly, its great that you want to save every baby, but the fact remains that its just not plausible.
If the world was perfect, what would be the point of heaven, after all?
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Post by RapidmonTamer on Jun 10, 2009 23:17:11 GMT -5
There are so many things that are much crueler than preventing an undeveloped human from entering this world.
Fun fact: brain activity doesn't start in an unborn baby until the 25th week of gestation.
I don't think the word "kill" should be used when arguing about abortions. How can you kill something that's hardly alive to begin with? Also, society is better off without "unwanted babies" because they are statistically much more probable to become criminals (see "freakanomics" for data linking the end of a major crime wave to the legalization of abortions).
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Post by Deji on Jun 11, 2009 0:17:14 GMT -5
There are so many things that are much crueler than preventing an undeveloped human from entering this world. Fun fact: brain activity doesn't start in an unborn baby until the 25th week of gestation. I don't think the word "kill" should be used when arguing about abortions. How can you kill something that's hardly alive to begin with? Also, society is better off without "unwanted babies" because they are statistically much more probable to become criminals (see "freakanomics" for data linking the end of a major crime wave to the legalization of abortions). also true, although it seems lilly has deleted her posts. I think of a dozen good reasons and more why abortion should be/remain legal. |
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Post by RapidmonTamer on Jun 11, 2009 0:24:17 GMT -5
also true, although it seems lilly has deleted her account again. Does she delete her accoun often? . . . |
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Post by Deji on Jun 11, 2009 0:27:49 GMT -5
Sorry, looks like just posts this time. Yes, she has done that before. She doesn't seem to handle confrontation well (no offense, Lilly).
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Post by RapidmonTamer on Jun 11, 2009 0:41:16 GMT -5
Oh. That's a pity. Lilly, if you're reading this, know that you should not be ashamed of your opinions. We will respect you and your opinions regardless of whether or not we agree ^_^
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Post by Deji on Jun 11, 2009 0:50:55 GMT -5
Anyhow,
That guy who killed the doctor, what do you think: Misguided Vigalante or Eratic Psycho
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